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WEDNESDAY, APRIL 26, 2017
Bill Ryan Update - "The Truth about Corey Goode"
The following article was released to the public by Bill Ryan via his Project Avalon website on April 26, 2017. I am posting this for your awareness only. It is up to you to discern if this has any relevance to your search for truth. It is interesting to note that we recently had an outing of the COBRA organization and now we have this outing of Corey Goode. I know it is hard for the alternative community to unify as there is so much convoluted information and so many different factions in many different alliance and cabal groups. Even if Goode or Cobra have been compromised in any way, they have contributed greatly to alternative community by exposing subject matter that is grossly ignored by the main stream media. As the cliche goes..... everything will be revealed in due time.
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By: Bill Ryan
Project Avalon
The Truth about Corey Goode
Here's some information. It's far from complete, but it presents a sample of some of the problems.
(By the way, the last time I conferred with Kerry Cassidy about this, she told me that she fully shares the view that Corey is compromised and is an unreliable witness. Or else, of course, she'd have interviewed him by now.)
Corey first came to our attention as a problem before Christine Anderson’s 2014 interview with him was published. He’d been active behind the scenes (by invitation) in investigating the Jesse Ames affair.
He sent some messages in the middle of the night, that he denied any knowledge of. Our very strong (unproven) suspicion was that he had indeed sent them, but had done so in an altered or split-minded state, and in the morning had no memory of what he’d done, though everything was there on his own computer and that of another person.
Ilie Pandia (who, like Paul, knows a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net) then looked closely at some of his statements, and raised a flag that there was absolutely NO WAY he was an 'IT expert’ as he had claimed. That simply wasn’t true.
This was the first time we’d realized there was a definite, proven, problem, and that Corey had been lying about his expertise. (Claims about expertise can of course only be refuted by someone who really is an expert.)
Christine’s Sept-Oct 2014 interview with Corey was largely unplanned: she had a dictaphone in her pocket when she went to visit him at his home, and took the opportunity to record their sporadic conversation (with his full permission, on two separate days). Christine had been intrigued by Corey for a while, and had previously recommended him to be an Avalon Moderator (an idea which the other mods had all rejected).
The recorded audio took a great deal of editing, to make the published version a lot more coherent than the original really was. There were many long pauses, hesitations, ramblings, and stumblings. Corey stated that he was on quite heavy pain medication, was on disability, had problems with his memory, and had not been working for quite a while. (He lied about this later, publicly claiming that he’d been earning a ‘six figure income’. This was a flat-out falsehood.) I have all the original raw audio archived.
All this time, he’d been continuing to make valid and interesting contributions to the forum. It seemed as if he might know something, somehow, but by the time we reached December 2014 it was clear that he was damaged or compromised in some way.
Further problems appeared that same month, when it became known that Corey was ‘counseling’ over 30 Milabs (military abductees), despite being quite unqualified to do anything of the sort. The forum has a duty of protection, as Milabs are real people with often real and very serious problems, that need the most expert help.
We didn’t know who all these people were, as Corey was doing this behind the scenes using the forum as a kind of catchment area. We received a report from one person (a current forum member) who’d been shocked, appalled and angered that Corey had totally (and sensationally) misrepresented her story to myself. That’s all documented, also.
His wife Stacy then joined the forum, with username SilverPhoenix. All her posts can be searched for. For reasons unknown, she made an incorrect statement in a forum post that I’d been a member of the Church of Scientology: she cited the wrong ‘Bill Ryan’ in her ‘research’ — an American, an older person, and certainly not myself.
I edited her post to correct it — quite mildly — but as circumstance would have it, I was already late for an appointment and had to leave before I could PM her to let her know why I’d made the edit. I returned 4 hours later to find that all hell had broken loose, and that she was protesting she’d been ‘censored’.
Corey took her side in the ensuing fracas, while Stacy continued to vent, very much out of control. In one of her several very long posts she revealed that Corey had been in extensive contact with higher authorities — one of whom was a ‘senior member of the Church of Scientology’, which might raise an eyebrow or two — to assemble a ‘dossier’ on me and one other unnamed person that extended to over 70 pages. All this can be read in detail on this thread:
(Very possibly connected with this, Corey had a couple months earlier been granted security access to the FBI database, and could use this to check up on any person he wanted — something he Skyped to me in person.)
The ensuing firefight, all of which was instigated by Stacy and Corey, resulted in Stacy being unsubscribed, at which point Corey left of his own accord. He was never banned from the forum.
What happened after that was that Corey opened a blog page, now taken down by him (but all of which has been archived), which was brimming with falsehoods and a deliberate, concerted attempt to smear Avalon publicly.
Coincidentally with that, he was now talking with David Wilcock, recounting a suddenly highly polished, enhanced and embellished version of the hesitant and fragmented story he’d told Christine. I wrote to David to warn him of the documented history, but he was not interested. (Kerry also tried to warn David, but that, too, was not heeded.)
I have correspondence from one person who claimed to be intel-connected (this is unproven, and there are reasons to doubt this, which is entirely another story) that Corey had, in January 2015, been recorded under surveillance, without his knowledge or permission, and had been planning with Stacy, in their home, what story to invent to tell David Wilcock. (His webcam and computer audio had been remotely activated, something we all now know is simple for the agencies to do.)
Again, this is unproven, but the claim was credible. It seemed that Corey was seeking stardom (he needed the money, very urgently), and that while the intel agencies knew exactly what was happening — they often do, of course — they were quietly sanctioning all this, as it played right into their agenda.
It seems quite possible that Corey had NOT been instructed to go public with invented or embellished stories, but that when he did, he received full, passive ‘support’. (Or — the entire roll-out of events might have been pre-programmed, just like setting up the cycle on a washing machine. This can be done, too.)
The same person who reported the existence of the surveillance video shared a screenshot of a Skype text chat with Corey, in which Corey confirmed that he was ‘now on the pay roll’, and referred to 'a superior'. What exactly that means is quite an interesting question.
Even though this summary is a long one, there’s not nearly enough room here to dissect his claims about the Secret Space Program, the ‘Blue Avians’, how he was a kind of selected special envoy to major multilateral United-Nations-style ET meetings, the 100 Jupiter-sized spheres that he claimed were in the Solar system (of course invisible, and undetectable by any known means), and ridiculous extremes like the Hollow Earth.
Even his claim to have been age-regressed and memory-wiped was a direct copy-and-paste of the extraordinary (but plausible and well-documented) claim by Michael Relfe from a decade and a half earlier.
As I've explained previously, if he’d really had the experiences he claimed, he’d never be allowed to talk. (Kerry and I were told that genuine Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon (real name Arthur Neumann), after his impromptu public statement on stage with Bob Dean at the July 2009 Barcelona Exopolitics Conference that he had been to Mars, “would never be allowed to talk about that again”: a prediction, or a warning, that appears to have been very accurate.)
As I’ve also mentioned elsewhere, one might imagine the possibility of Ed Snowden having his own show on Gaia. It'd never happen: he’d be marched away in handcuffs within hours of appearing at the studio.
The extremely strong likelihood is that Corey is, as they say, ‘damaged goods’. (As Richard Dolan said to Jimmy Church, rather in exasperation: “I think that there's something desperately wrong with some of these individuals who come out as so-called whistleblowers. There's something not right about them.”)
The same is very likely to be true of many claimed whistleblowers, of course, notably quite a few that have been showcased on Miles Johnston’s ‘Bases’ series, but also elsewhere. Some are allowed to talk (i.e. they’re not stopped or punished), but the agencies know full-well that they’re already compromised with implanted false memories, so the result is opportunistically convenient public disinformation.
People who really tell the exact truth about highly sensitive material are usually silenced pretty quickly — somehow. In 2008, I lost a good friend, who spoke out. His name was Jon Danner. One of the nicest people on God's Earth.
Jon had recorded a short audio message that Kerry and I played at a conference, announcing that he was planning to 'come out' to tell his astonishing true story live, in person, over the coming months.
He was in perfect health, but collapsed and died three weeks later, while Christmas shopping with his family.
Jon's grieving wife said this to me in a phone call: He didn't want to be famous, he didn't want money. He just wanted to help everyone.
Anyone who is still of value to the agencies or the military, and is a valuable functioning asset as part of a classified program, would never be allowed to go public. With one or two possible exceptions among those who have ever claimed anything of note, it’s only the malfunctioning former insiders who have ever said their piece and lived to tell the tale.
That doesn’t mean those people aren’t genuine: it just means that their testimony may well be flawed.
To reference one of the final scenes from the first Jason Bourne movie, when Bourne tracks down his former handler and demands to know who he really is, he’s told:
Does this mean that there may be grains of truth in some of Corey’s claims? Yes, of course that’s possible. But the point is that, as with all disinformation (= part truth, part falsehood), the unsavory mix is almost valueless for research purposes, and its intention is always to confuse and muddy the waters, until no-one can see where they’re going any more.
Disinformation is one of the agencies’ most useful weapons, it’s pretty clever, and it almost always works to plan. (That's why there's such a lot of it!)
Some of Corey’s claims may be founded in fact (the Secret Space Program is a reality, of course, and there are good reasons to believe it’s really very advanced), some of his claims may be consciously fictionalized (there are strong reasons to suspect this), and yet some other details may well be implants. (Meaning, overlaid pseudo-realities injected under pain of hypnosis, electronics, and/or drugs.)
The reality may be a mix of those three. One piece of data, to be analyzed in any way by anyone who cares to, is Corey’s post here, in which he 'doesn't buy' the idea that he was ever a Milab. (He changed his mind, later. Or, maybe, his 'mind was changed', as it were.)
* Omnisense already posted this and quite a bit else, but what he contributed appears to have been overlooked.
An asset who’s more ideal still is someone who’s presenting disinformation, but is totally sincere and believes everything they’re saying. Andy Basiago is a perfect example, but this, too, is another story. This does not seem to be the case with Corey. It’s known and documented that he’s well-capable of conscious deceit…. and the only question, really, is where that stops.
For all these reasons, and quite a few more, the Avalon moderators (and almost everyone who’s been following this saga closely) cannot support Corey's claims or in any way hold them of value.
There are reasons why the 2014-2015 Secret Space Program Conference organizers didn’t invite him or any other claimed whistleblowers to present their story. Their stance, which they explained publicly, is that whistleblowers simply can't be relied on, wholesale, to provide reliable information. (In passing, they also revealed that Corey had tried to organize many of his followers to lobby on his behalf for him to be a speaker.)
Their stated position was that the safest way through the morass of misinformation and disinformation was to support serious document research — an approach which Joseph Farrell and Catherine Austin Fitts endorse very strongly — rather than wild, unverifiable, uncorroborated testimony and rumor, which is currently proliferating everywhere and is of little or no serious research value.
My intention to make all this clear mirrors Richard Dolan's own exasperation, that so many people are taken in by this and other similar claims that are benefiting no-one except those who (a) want to deceive us, and (b) want to cause friction and factionalization in the alt community.
I'm no-one's enemy here. But, I am a friend of the truth. (And, fully on record, so is Kerry Cassidy. As best I know, she agrees with everything I've stated here, though some of the details of Corey's earlier interaction with the Avalon community she may not be fully aware of.)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1148567&viewfull=1#post1148567
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Project Avalon
The Truth about Corey Goode
Here's some information. It's far from complete, but it presents a sample of some of the problems.
(By the way, the last time I conferred with Kerry Cassidy about this, she told me that she fully shares the view that Corey is compromised and is an unreliable witness. Or else, of course, she'd have interviewed him by now.)
Corey first came to our attention as a problem before Christine Anderson’s 2014 interview with him was published. He’d been active behind the scenes (by invitation) in investigating the Jesse Ames affair.
He sent some messages in the middle of the night, that he denied any knowledge of. Our very strong (unproven) suspicion was that he had indeed sent them, but had done so in an altered or split-minded state, and in the morning had no memory of what he’d done, though everything was there on his own computer and that of another person.
Ilie Pandia (who, like Paul, knows a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net) then looked closely at some of his statements, and raised a flag that there was absolutely NO WAY he was an 'IT expert’ as he had claimed. That simply wasn’t true.
This was the first time we’d realized there was a definite, proven, problem, and that Corey had been lying about his expertise. (Claims about expertise can of course only be refuted by someone who really is an expert.)
Christine’s Sept-Oct 2014 interview with Corey was largely unplanned: she had a dictaphone in her pocket when she went to visit him at his home, and took the opportunity to record their sporadic conversation (with his full permission, on two separate days). Christine had been intrigued by Corey for a while, and had previously recommended him to be an Avalon Moderator (an idea which the other mods had all rejected).
The recorded audio took a great deal of editing, to make the published version a lot more coherent than the original really was. There were many long pauses, hesitations, ramblings, and stumblings. Corey stated that he was on quite heavy pain medication, was on disability, had problems with his memory, and had not been working for quite a while. (He lied about this later, publicly claiming that he’d been earning a ‘six figure income’. This was a flat-out falsehood.) I have all the original raw audio archived.
All this time, he’d been continuing to make valid and interesting contributions to the forum. It seemed as if he might know something, somehow, but by the time we reached December 2014 it was clear that he was damaged or compromised in some way.
Further problems appeared that same month, when it became known that Corey was ‘counseling’ over 30 Milabs (military abductees), despite being quite unqualified to do anything of the sort. The forum has a duty of protection, as Milabs are real people with often real and very serious problems, that need the most expert help.
We didn’t know who all these people were, as Corey was doing this behind the scenes using the forum as a kind of catchment area. We received a report from one person (a current forum member) who’d been shocked, appalled and angered that Corey had totally (and sensationally) misrepresented her story to myself. That’s all documented, also.
His wife Stacy then joined the forum, with username SilverPhoenix. All her posts can be searched for. For reasons unknown, she made an incorrect statement in a forum post that I’d been a member of the Church of Scientology: she cited the wrong ‘Bill Ryan’ in her ‘research’ — an American, an older person, and certainly not myself.
I edited her post to correct it — quite mildly — but as circumstance would have it, I was already late for an appointment and had to leave before I could PM her to let her know why I’d made the edit. I returned 4 hours later to find that all hell had broken loose, and that she was protesting she’d been ‘censored’.
Corey took her side in the ensuing fracas, while Stacy continued to vent, very much out of control. In one of her several very long posts she revealed that Corey had been in extensive contact with higher authorities — one of whom was a ‘senior member of the Church of Scientology’, which might raise an eyebrow or two — to assemble a ‘dossier’ on me and one other unnamed person that extended to over 70 pages. All this can be read in detail on this thread:
(Very possibly connected with this, Corey had a couple months earlier been granted security access to the FBI database, and could use this to check up on any person he wanted — something he Skyped to me in person.)
The ensuing firefight, all of which was instigated by Stacy and Corey, resulted in Stacy being unsubscribed, at which point Corey left of his own accord. He was never banned from the forum.
What happened after that was that Corey opened a blog page, now taken down by him (but all of which has been archived), which was brimming with falsehoods and a deliberate, concerted attempt to smear Avalon publicly.
Coincidentally with that, he was now talking with David Wilcock, recounting a suddenly highly polished, enhanced and embellished version of the hesitant and fragmented story he’d told Christine. I wrote to David to warn him of the documented history, but he was not interested. (Kerry also tried to warn David, but that, too, was not heeded.)
I have correspondence from one person who claimed to be intel-connected (this is unproven, and there are reasons to doubt this, which is entirely another story) that Corey had, in January 2015, been recorded under surveillance, without his knowledge or permission, and had been planning with Stacy, in their home, what story to invent to tell David Wilcock. (His webcam and computer audio had been remotely activated, something we all now know is simple for the agencies to do.)
Again, this is unproven, but the claim was credible. It seemed that Corey was seeking stardom (he needed the money, very urgently), and that while the intel agencies knew exactly what was happening — they often do, of course — they were quietly sanctioning all this, as it played right into their agenda.
It seems quite possible that Corey had NOT been instructed to go public with invented or embellished stories, but that when he did, he received full, passive ‘support’. (Or — the entire roll-out of events might have been pre-programmed, just like setting up the cycle on a washing machine. This can be done, too.)
The same person who reported the existence of the surveillance video shared a screenshot of a Skype text chat with Corey, in which Corey confirmed that he was ‘now on the pay roll’, and referred to 'a superior'. What exactly that means is quite an interesting question.
Even though this summary is a long one, there’s not nearly enough room here to dissect his claims about the Secret Space Program, the ‘Blue Avians’, how he was a kind of selected special envoy to major multilateral United-Nations-style ET meetings, the 100 Jupiter-sized spheres that he claimed were in the Solar system (of course invisible, and undetectable by any known means), and ridiculous extremes like the Hollow Earth.
Even his claim to have been age-regressed and memory-wiped was a direct copy-and-paste of the extraordinary (but plausible and well-documented) claim by Michael Relfe from a decade and a half earlier.
As I've explained previously, if he’d really had the experiences he claimed, he’d never be allowed to talk. (Kerry and I were told that genuine Camelot whistleblower Henry Deacon (real name Arthur Neumann), after his impromptu public statement on stage with Bob Dean at the July 2009 Barcelona Exopolitics Conference that he had been to Mars, “would never be allowed to talk about that again”: a prediction, or a warning, that appears to have been very accurate.)
As I’ve also mentioned elsewhere, one might imagine the possibility of Ed Snowden having his own show on Gaia. It'd never happen: he’d be marched away in handcuffs within hours of appearing at the studio.
The extremely strong likelihood is that Corey is, as they say, ‘damaged goods’. (As Richard Dolan said to Jimmy Church, rather in exasperation: “I think that there's something desperately wrong with some of these individuals who come out as so-called whistleblowers. There's something not right about them.”)
The same is very likely to be true of many claimed whistleblowers, of course, notably quite a few that have been showcased on Miles Johnston’s ‘Bases’ series, but also elsewhere. Some are allowed to talk (i.e. they’re not stopped or punished), but the agencies know full-well that they’re already compromised with implanted false memories, so the result is opportunistically convenient public disinformation.
People who really tell the exact truth about highly sensitive material are usually silenced pretty quickly — somehow. In 2008, I lost a good friend, who spoke out. His name was Jon Danner. One of the nicest people on God's Earth.
Jon had recorded a short audio message that Kerry and I played at a conference, announcing that he was planning to 'come out' to tell his astonishing true story live, in person, over the coming months.
He was in perfect health, but collapsed and died three weeks later, while Christmas shopping with his family.
Jon's grieving wife said this to me in a phone call: He didn't want to be famous, he didn't want money. He just wanted to help everyone.
Anyone who is still of value to the agencies or the military, and is a valuable functioning asset as part of a classified program, would never be allowed to go public. With one or two possible exceptions among those who have ever claimed anything of note, it’s only the malfunctioning former insiders who have ever said their piece and lived to tell the tale.
That doesn’t mean those people aren’t genuine: it just means that their testimony may well be flawed.
To reference one of the final scenes from the first Jason Bourne movie, when Bourne tracks down his former handler and demands to know who he really is, he’s told:
There’s a great deal of truth in those lines.“You’re US government property. You’re a malfunctioning 30 million dollar weapon. You're a total goddamn catastrophe, and by God, if it kills me, you're going to tell me how this happened."
Does this mean that there may be grains of truth in some of Corey’s claims? Yes, of course that’s possible. But the point is that, as with all disinformation (= part truth, part falsehood), the unsavory mix is almost valueless for research purposes, and its intention is always to confuse and muddy the waters, until no-one can see where they’re going any more.
Disinformation is one of the agencies’ most useful weapons, it’s pretty clever, and it almost always works to plan. (That's why there's such a lot of it!)
Some of Corey’s claims may be founded in fact (the Secret Space Program is a reality, of course, and there are good reasons to believe it’s really very advanced), some of his claims may be consciously fictionalized (there are strong reasons to suspect this), and yet some other details may well be implants. (Meaning, overlaid pseudo-realities injected under pain of hypnosis, electronics, and/or drugs.)
The reality may be a mix of those three. One piece of data, to be analyzed in any way by anyone who cares to, is Corey’s post here, in which he 'doesn't buy' the idea that he was ever a Milab. (He changed his mind, later. Or, maybe, his 'mind was changed', as it were.)
* Omnisense already posted this and quite a bit else, but what he contributed appears to have been overlooked.
An asset who’s more ideal still is someone who’s presenting disinformation, but is totally sincere and believes everything they’re saying. Andy Basiago is a perfect example, but this, too, is another story. This does not seem to be the case with Corey. It’s known and documented that he’s well-capable of conscious deceit…. and the only question, really, is where that stops.
For all these reasons, and quite a few more, the Avalon moderators (and almost everyone who’s been following this saga closely) cannot support Corey's claims or in any way hold them of value.
There are reasons why the 2014-2015 Secret Space Program Conference organizers didn’t invite him or any other claimed whistleblowers to present their story. Their stance, which they explained publicly, is that whistleblowers simply can't be relied on, wholesale, to provide reliable information. (In passing, they also revealed that Corey had tried to organize many of his followers to lobby on his behalf for him to be a speaker.)
Their stated position was that the safest way through the morass of misinformation and disinformation was to support serious document research — an approach which Joseph Farrell and Catherine Austin Fitts endorse very strongly — rather than wild, unverifiable, uncorroborated testimony and rumor, which is currently proliferating everywhere and is of little or no serious research value.
My intention to make all this clear mirrors Richard Dolan's own exasperation, that so many people are taken in by this and other similar claims that are benefiting no-one except those who (a) want to deceive us, and (b) want to cause friction and factionalization in the alt community.
I'm no-one's enemy here. But, I am a friend of the truth. (And, fully on record, so is Kerry Cassidy. As best I know, she agrees with everything I've stated here, though some of the details of Corey's earlier interaction with the Avalon community she may not be fully aware of.)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?97313-The-Truth-about-Corey-Goode&p=1148567&viewfull=1#post1148567
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